Where do you want to start?
I know you thought about this a lot before already,
so I hope this got some new stuff, thinking about it.
Well, what do you mean?
Like Metropolis, whatever?
Yeah, we could start from there.
Well, that's why I just put down...
I know you're supposed to choose something,
but I get two because it's Metropolis Town.
Because my character's family was rich,
and this was Alderaan, so he had a penthouse.
They had a house in...
I had to turn the music down.
The music down?
Yeah.
Okay, it's still too loud.
No, I turned it down. It's fine.
I had to turn it down on my side.
Okay.
But anyway, and then town,
because he has a state outside town.
An estate?
Like a family estate.
Okay.
But this is Alderaan.
It's not there anymore, you know?
Oh, it got blowed up.
It didn't survive the planetary explosion?
You know what?
I thought the penthouse might have made it,
but when I went there, it was gone too.
Is that a thing that happened?
What?
Did I go see it?
Yeah, did he go back?
No, I never went back.
Did he?
Well, he heard...
Clearly, I mean, he must have heard about the Alderaan explosion, right?
Yeah.
How did he feel about it?
Do you know?
Oh, he hated...
Oh, he was distraught.
I'm trying to remember what I had planned for that.
Like, he was off-planet.
Okay.
He was off-planet at the time.
I think he thinks his family died with that, or...
Okay.
Well, maybe, didn't he?
I don't remember what happened.
Well, he might not know.
Yeah, I think he...
Because I can't remember if I had a plan of him having...
If, like...
If his family died after the planet was destroyed, because I...
Because, like, or...
Yeah, let's just say his planet was...
I don't know.
Like you said, maybe it's better not to know.
Right.
Maybe it'll change.
You can find out information, but for now, you're kind of operating under the assumption
that your family's dead.
Yeah.
And, like, the McKenzie's...
I do know, like, my family name is really bad right now, because my family was...
They were...
What's it called?
What do they call them?
Oh, God.
They sold guns.
I can't remember what the name of that is.
Oh.
God, I had a word for it.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
I know there's a word.
Like, warlords.
Arms dealers, yeah.
Oh, profiteers?
Yeah, profiteers.
They were arms dealers that worked...
They worked...
They were pro-empire up until, like, the planet got blowed up.
Well, I mean, they weren't really anything after the planet got blowed up.
Well, that's why the name is hated by both...
Ah.
They're hated by both...
By everyone.
They're hated by the...
The Iranians, by the rebels, because the, you know, they sided with the Empire.
The Empire hates them because they're Alderanians.
They're Alderani.
Okay.
So, at least that's how it's story.
Okay.
That makes sense.
Maybe moving on.
Where did you call home?
It said, where did I often sleep?
I put down cockpit of my favorite fighter ship.
When it said what I need to do to maintain it, I just snuck in.
Ship was never really repaired.
It was just one that was hanging out in the garage at the estate.
Oh, that's cool as hell.
Yeah.
And did it protect you?
What did you care for?
It was my place to get away.
And then do you long for it now?
I said, now I have the kahuna.
Okay.
So, the next, where did people socialize?
I don't really know.
I put down a pub I'd often sneak off to.
Okay.
Where the owner was wise and gave at least advice, at least, where the owner was wise or at least
gave advice as though he were.
And I also watched more than I took is what I put down.
But it said choose one.
It drew the dangerous thug.
So, it's like a, I couldn't come up with a bar name or something like that, but that's
where, like, I would sneak off to occasionally when I became an adult.
So, was that sort of like a rebellious thing or?
Yeah.
I would go, let's just call it like a, that's where, because I would sneak off to do, my
character would sneak off to do, like, races, underground races.
Oh, okay.
This is the bar he would go to.
He was a pilot, you know, and he was doing it without his father's permission.
And this is where he snuck off to.
And there was a bartender there.
I don't know if he survived and maybe he could open up another bar somewhere else, but I don't
remember the bartender.
But I did put down, he was wise, or at least acted like he was wise.
So, maybe there was somebody that might be, you know, not everybody has to come back and
kill me.
Did, uh, was he involved in, like, the racing part of it too?
Like, yeah.
Let's just say he was, he was kind of like Watto, but nice.
Like, like, he, like, I think this character, I think this character, this, this bartender
liked me more than my father did.
Were they like pod races?
I was imagining street races.
Were they like pod races?
I don't know if you call them pod races, but like, uh, like, like speeder races, uh, starship
races, or fighter pilot races, things like that.
Okay.
Are they, were they illegal?
Uh, some.
Okay.
Uh, I don't know if I did at all.
That's a good question.
Well, I mean, it would be a good way to start your, not being afraid of breaking the law.
I mean, you do end up being a smuggler.
I don't want to spoil it, but.
Oh, no.
Okay.
Uh, let's see.
All right.
So, that's where people socialize.
Uh, what did people respect?
Uh, I put down, and this is goes kind of like with the Alderaan.
I put down like power, authority, cunning, wealth, ambition.
Okay.
Um, and then, uh, strength and skill.
And it goes, I asked if I have these values I hold today.
I said, no.
But I said, how do your personal values differ?
I put down, I value cunning, ambition, and wealth.
Okay.
Um, and I don't know if there was anything else.
Yeah.
And how does that, is that, that's different from your family?
Cunning, ambition, and wealth.
Uh, I guess.
Well, not power.
Not power and authority.
Okay.
That, that makes sense.
Yeah, I guess.
And I, I would put down, I guess, love, but that's just more like familial.
Like, you know, like, I, like, I would put down friendship or something like that.
You know, too.
Because I want to, I don't want my character thinking like he's going to betray.
I don't want, I don't want to, I want to want my, my, I want to want the perception
being that I don't care about the crew.
Because I, I, yeah, I do.
Uh, at least about Sarn.
Well, Ghost, I mean, you just met Ghost, so.
I just met Ghost and, uh, RX is taking control of my ship, so I'm very upset.
Yeah, that's, you guys have been arguing a lot over the ship.
I mean, you guys always argued you and RX, so it's not out of character.
Yeah.
Who was in charge?
What was that?
So, because I think it's basically you're in, you're talking about, was it a, you said it
was a metropolis.
So you were basically like, you're saying in the capital of Alderaan is kind of where you're
from?
Um, let's just say like the Chicago of Alderaan.
So like the second city.
Yeah.
Let's go with that.
I like that.
Like, you know, I'm not in metropolis.
I'm in Gotham.
Um, my, the guy who was in charge was my father.
He was one of the richest noblemen of the, of my, of, on Alderaan.
He was a rich nobleman, Alderaan.
Um, he never spoke, but it was always heard, and he demanded loyalty.
But, and the thing says, but, it was, he was, he was eventually overthrown, which is what
happened, because like, Alderaan ends up getting blown up.
Okay.
Oh, I named my dad.
His name's Lord Ablar McKenzie.
Ablar, O-B-L-A-R.
Yeah.
Nice.
I feel like that was good.
Um, when you picture, when you picture a ruler, uh, what is she or he look like?
Strong, decision-making, stern, quiet, because that's how my, that's how Mac's father was.
It was very, uh, matter of fact.
Would you, kind of like, okay, go ahead.
Kind of like Thrawn, kind of like, uh, uh, what's his face?
The guy from the, the main, the, the main, uh, Frank from, uh, from, uh, Mandalorian.
Like, I can't remember his character.
That, the Grand Moff Gideon.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Kind of like that.
He was where he's, ends justify the main.
But it says, given the chance, who would you emulate?
And I came up with this guy, another character.
He was my, he was my, he was a part of my father's, like, he was my father's captain slash pilot.
He was a wild card.
And my, he's a captain slash pilot that I knew in my father's employee.
I named him Chase Carnage.
Chase Carnage.
Oh man, that's cool.
And he, uh, what I'm imagining, have you ever seen the movie, uh, First Kid with, uh, Sinbad?
No, I did not.
Is that the one where he goes and he becomes a knight?
No, no, no, no, it's, um, it's the one where there's this kid, he's like the first kid.
He's like the president's son.
And Sinbad is a secret service officer.
And he's like a, you know, basically like a cool uncle that he hangs out with.
Uh-huh.
And that's kind of what I imagine this Chase Carnage is.
He's like, yeah, just a guy you're obsessed with as a kid because he's like super cool.
Yeah, exactly.
Um, I don't know.
And I don't know what happened to him either.
Uh, but he was another one that I, like, yeah.
Yeah, I knew him.
So let's put it in perspective.
Uh, father ignored me growing up, but wanted me to take over the business.
I, as a kid, would hide out in the starship, in a spaceship.
And, uh, Chase Carnage was sort of my idol.
And then after that, when I started doing actual racing, I would go to that bar and that bartender,
I don't know his name yet.
Like I said, I couldn't come up with a name, but he became sort of my, like, my underworld
father figure, you know, kind of had my back, kind of like a Long John Silver kind of character,
you know.
Um, I don't know if you ever watched Treasure Island.
I don't get the reference other than, other than the fish.
No, well, in Treasure, in Treasure Island, the whole plot of Treasure Island is that the
main character, Jim Hawkins, because a relationship with the main villain, uh, Long John Silver,
and a kind of like, grows a, you know, it's like they, he likes them, you know, so.
And then after that, uh, you know, everyone dies.
Okay, well, I'm glad I don't have to read that anymore.
Yeah, exactly.
That's done.
Uh, okay.
We got a couple minutes, uh, before we, we hit 15.
Um, what was your, what, do you have something you want to say about your place?
Uh, what was your place?
I was ignored.
Okay.
Uh, my duty was to serve.
I felt like my dad always wanted me to kind of be like a soldier figure for, you know,
and take up the family, but I felt like he didn't enjoy me.
Um, I had a sister.
He always seemed to dote on.
Okay.
More than me.
Um, which I said, he said, serve, which I actively resisted and desperately ran from.
Oh, I, I want to write that down.
What is that?
Oh, is that?
Oh, okay.
Here it is.
I humbly accepted.
Actively resisted and desperately.
Actively resisted and desperately ran from.
Okay.
And then, uh, I would not go back to it.
Not if the chains of hell dragged me back.
Okay.
All right.
So you were never going to take over, even if it didn't blow up.
I was not planning on it.
I always wanted to be a pilot.
Now that the family is gone, I can do that.
And now I'm trying to get a new family.
That's why I'm so sad.
Sar doesn't like me.
Okay.
New family.
I think that's, I think that's, that could be important.
Cause like everybody, you know, he got blowed up as far as you know.
Yeah.
And Chase Carnage, was he like the family driver?
That's his own.
You said captain.
I wasn't, I wasn't sure.
I would say, let's call him like, like the Brock Sampson.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
But, but driving was a big, well, I guess so for Brock Sampson, driving is a big thing.
Kind of like Gurney Hallig from, uh, Dune, you know, he's kind of like the weapons master
or whatever.
Is that Aquaman?
Yeah.
Uh, no, that was, uh, the other one.
The one who was like, they're playing.
Remember that guy?
Like when he first showed up and he's the guy who fought like, yeah.
In the movie who fought, you know, he fought him in the, like he trained the kid.
Yeah.
Oh, that guy.
Okay.
Yeah.
I remember him.
Yeah.
So, um, and it, it'd be kind of cool if I, like, I developed a more of a family with these
guys.
And like, maybe like, maybe somehow, some way, someone from my family survived.
Maybe they all survived.
And I just didn't know, like my family, my sister, or maybe this, you know, my dad survived.
That'd be kind of cool to come back.
I'm just not trying to throw advice to you.
Sure.
No, but those are great ideas.
Those are great hooks.
Yeah.
So like, if one, like one day, like the door opens and it turns out it's my, you know, somebody
from my past, you know?
So these are a few people you can, you know, I don't know.
Okay.
So.
No, that, that, that's all great.
Um, and it also kind of makes sense.
Yeah.
I know I was thinking a little bit about your, cause your grandfather, at least from the one
episode of who want to keep it, uh, was part of his secret society.
And that doesn't, I mean, that jives with all of this.
We get, maybe we should do something with that.
We're like, maybe my grandfather, my father were hoots with the empire with the secret
society or something.
Are you eating breakfast?
Pancake?
Have a pancake.
Okay.
All right.
And have, so have you never not had like, I mean, your big thing in your mind is like
family.
You don't have like a former love or like wife or anything like that.
Kids.
I kind of thought it would be interesting.
Like, no, I have no kids.
Okay.
I could have a former girlfriends.
I kind of thought it'd be interesting if maybe like, like maybe that one, maybe that
somebody from my racing days or somebody from maybe that one chick, I don't remember her
name.
Uh, that we, that who I knew from back when I was with the McKenzie's.
Remember that plot point?
Yeah.
Maru Jakar.
She looked fetching.
Okay.
All right.
I got to get to Andy, but this was, this was awesome.
Good job.
I'm glad you spent so much time and thought into it.
Yeah.
I hope I, I hope it did good because I should have been working.